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From what you now understand about the Big Bang Theory and black holes, discuss your thoughts about the formation of our universe.
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Collapsing 4D Star Could Have Spawned Universe
First wow, I really don't know how to take all this in, so pretty much they are saying that when a star explodes or is in the supernova stage the inner membrane forms into a black hole and the outer membrane is where we live. I think that's really cool considering that might be true because there's so many stars and after a supernova explosion many proto stars are formed and from a human naked eye we do see endless stars and scientist believes that our universe is endless and most likely I believe we are in the outer membrane but yet I don't because there's not enough proof.
ReplyDeleteThe world is made of many different dimension that these scientists believe that with the death of a 4 d star in world they came to the 3 d world and made it. Like us that we are 3 d and we can draw 2 d objects and we make them. 4 d things can draw in 3 d and make 3 d objects. 3 d people cannot see 4 d people but 4 d people can see us. Some scientist believe that the world made of 6 d that each have the same connection to the other dimension, so I think this theory can be true although if it is true we should see how the first one which was the base is made ?
ReplyDeleteThis idea is about another dimension that we cannot see. The fourth dimensions are something that we cannot see because we are three dimension. This idea tells that our universe had been made from a four dimension star collapsing. Our dimension is three and we can see three dimension stuffs, but we cannot see the four dimensions. In fact four dimensions can see us and affect on us as we can affect on two dimension like drawing on a paper. The four dimensions live with us and the star from outer layer, which is four dimension made our three dimension universe.
ReplyDeleteI think what this article trying to explain us that there are a lot of missing points in the Big Bang theory and the theory they came up with explains a lot of the missing poles. For example in the beginning of the article, they talked about the temperature of the universe is nearly uniform. If a “big bang” event had created the universe, then according to some explanations, there hasn’t been enough time between then and now for it to have reached that temperature equilibrium. I think it's making a valuable argument here which should be taken seriously.
ReplyDeleteNice reply. I agree with the "not enough time" statement. It makes sense.
DeleteThanks Brandon
DeleteThe Big Bang theory states that not very much existed in the universe before the big band. This new theory says that we might just be a small part of something even greater that the universe we have imagined. And that our universe has just been existing since a star from the 4d universe collapsed.
ReplyDeleteI think it is more likely that we are part of something bigger, because I think the big band theory has quite a few holes ( like expansion faster than the speed of light) so I think that if there were more pieces of the puzzle ( a larger 4d universe) that it would be easier to make a clear picture
I completely agree.
DeleteAfter reading this article, I understand that there are a lot of problems with the physics fundamentals in the Big Bang Theory. I think there is a very good possibility that our universe was created in the event horizon of a collapsed four-dimensional star because of the statement saying we wouldn't have been able to reach temperature equilibrium this quickly. The fact that the collapsed 4D star expanded is an even better example of how we could've easily been formed by that.
ReplyDeleteWow great observation. I couldnt agree more.
DeleteIt seems rather interesting to hear yet another theory about how the universe formed. The fact that a four-dimensional star may have collapsed to create our own story is quite intriguing. While the theory may sound awesome, there isn't a substantial amount of scientific evidence to support an assertion such as this one. Additionally, the article does not provide information on how this "fourth-dimension" was created. It would be logical to assume that the collapse of some fifth-dimension caused the fourth dimension to form; however, there isn't compelling nor conclusive evidence to indicate such a phenomenon. Nonetheless, the theory should be researched more because there is always a risk that it may be true.
ReplyDeleteI didn't even think of that, that for a fourth dimension to exist it could be argued that at one point there was, in fact, five dimensions. I agree that while the theory is interesting to ponder, as of right now there is not a substantial evidence supporting the claim. Currently the Big Bang Theory still holds the most validity regarding the explanation as to how our universe was created.
DeleteThis article is pretty hard to grasp because ordinary people don't have a good grasp of the concept or visualization of a 4-Dimensional space, and even then experts and scientists have trouble at times, too. The theory that the collapse of a 4D star, or a hypersphere, created the universe is still uncertain, but I wouldn't be surprising if that theory happened to be the truth in the birth of this universe, as we have no experience on how it feels or looks like to be in a 4D space and there is a vast area of space in our universe alone that still haven't been discovered. However, this theory still poses the question of how that hypersphere got to be there and what caused its collapse.
ReplyDeleteYou have a point here, Paul. The concept of a four dimensional object let alone an entire universe that potentially formed from it can be very confusing. It is certainly fascinating but perhaps we as humans don't have the necessary technology to verify this theory
DeleteAfter reading the article, I am sufficiently confused. To think that our universe contains an extra dimension, that in truth the cosmos is 4D as opposed to 3D, is mind blowing. I literally cannot comprehend this theory. While I see the solutions this theory presents, the holes it patches in the Big Bang Theory such as the current uniform temperature and inflationary rate of the universe, I'm skeptical of the idea. It goes against the fundamental principles of our world. All we've known, all the human race has been exposed to/experienced consists within in the bounds of three dimensions. To imagine the existence of a fourth dimension and to use this fourth dimension as a means of supporting the claim that our universe acts as a hypersphere, the event horizon of black hole at the center of the cosmos, seems almost ridiculous. Because I simply cannot comprehend the rationale behind this claim, I cannot give a proper assessment of whether or not I feel this theory is accurate. I understand the concept of black holes, that a black hole is created due to the collapse of a massive star and that a two-dimensional event horizon surrounds a black hole preventing a black hole from literally sucking in everything surrounding it, but as to the claim that a 4D dimensional star collapsed creating a black hole with a 3D event horizon, our universe, I cannot comprehend it.
ReplyDeleteThe author of this article examines some very intriguing aspects of the universe and it's creation. The proposition that the universe may have been formed from a large star, large enough anyway to be considered four dimensional is certainly a possibility. Perhaps what the author pointed out was the temperature consistency throughout the universe as a whole. Of course this conflicts with the theory that explains that the universe is continuously expanding in the sense that the older matter may have began to cool whereas matter that was formed a few milliseconds may have been hotter. I could be wrong but since very dense and massive stars like neutron stars hold great amounts of energy they will most likely collapse into a massive black hole. This could connect the dots between the existence of billions of stars within the galaxy and the merging of several very massive neutron stars to for one enormous singularity. It's a stretch. But is just another idea amount many in the formation of the universe.
ReplyDeleteWhile reading this article I was really trying to grasp the reality of the theory being portrayed in this article. I think if this was to be true human existance would never be. I feel that if we are the result of this theory there would constantly be news of comet collisions.Because the atmosphere that we'd have would not be as strong as the one we currently have.
ReplyDeleteWow I couldn't have said it better myself
DeleteI really enjoyed this article. To think that our universe was created from a huge four-demensional star makes more sence than our universe forming from a tiny star. I'd like to eras more about it because it didn't give too many facts about how it was there or even about us being on the brane of the collapsed hyperdimensional star. This is something I'd like to go more in depth with research!
ReplyDeleteI agree with your characterization that there probably needs to be more research done on this theory. It seems like we are just scratching the surface, but a lot more evidence needs to be rolled out in order to render it conclusive.
DeleteThe search for the beginnig of the universe is, to me, an inspiring one. To be able to look at conditions around us now and even minimally postulate would might have happened billions of years ago is phenomenal. It inspires me even more that we are still coming up with new hypothesis Asa to how it began, this new hypothesis has a lot if implications, ones that I would really like to learn more about. The search for the beginning of the universe reminds me why I love science, in science nothing is ever accepted fully, there is always room for questioning as long as long as there is evidence for your hypothesis and you can support it.
ReplyDeletethis is a very interesting article because it does bring up flaws in the Big Bang theory. I agree with the point they make when they say the temperature of the universe is uniform. There hasn't been enough time since then and now to reach the temperature equilibrium.
ReplyDeleteThere has to be a good shot that our universe is part of a brane. I think that it makes sense how we are a 3d membrane floating through a 4d "bulk universe"
The Big Bang Theory seems to be something a lot of scientist and people have looked into and have decided to believe because of the facts we think we know about it. In my opinion I don’t think anyone really knows how the universe began. I believe that people want answers to everything around us, including how the world universe began. There are explanations for the Big Bang Theory that make sense but I just think it is so far fetch and my mind, personally, won’t grasp the idea of it. In this article we read I found myself questioning the whole thing even more and it strengthened my opinion that it didn’t happen. The likely hood that that our universe is part of a brane at the event horizon of a collapsed four-dimensional star is also crazy to me and I don’t think it is very likely that is what happened either. The article says itself that the whole thing is a “bold claim” and from that it just seems like the scientist are all very unsure of what they have discovered. I just don’t see either of these explanations for how the universe started as very reasonable ideas, they could’ve happened but it’s hard for me to believe.
ReplyDeleteThis seems like a crazy idea. I can't even imagine how someone could even think of this as a possibility. This also made me wonder if the same thing could happen with a 3D star to a 2D universe. It's impossible to comprehend how matter could just move from one universe to the next and somehow the universes aren't touching. This article also shows how most our hypothesis about how the universe began aren't backed up by too much evidence because it is impossible to see any events from the beginning of the universe.
ReplyDeleteI agree, some of the theories about our universe seem crazy and a lot of them aren't backed up enough. Because of not enough evidence we will never know the truth
DeleteA black hole is a place in space where gravity pulls so much that even light can not get out. The gravity is so strong because matter has been squeezed into a tiny space. This can happen when a star is dying.Because no light can get out, people can't see black holes. They are invisible to the naked eye. In the article "Collapsing 4D Star Could Have Spawned Universe" it theorizes that the universe could have started from a 4D star collapsing into a black hole and forming a 3D event horizon that we can not see because of invisible light and the fact that we are in the 3D brane which surrounds it. It is believed that Earth will not fall into a black hole because black holes are not space eating stars; however, it can now be suggested that this is because Earth lives on this black hole. These have been very big claims in the article. It reverts all past efforts made in understanding the universe and presents new explanations on how our universe was created in the past in order to explain the future.........and whatever lay there.
ReplyDeleteThe theory that the article presents seems like an alternative approach to the Big Bang theory that sounds very promising. It could explain why when a 3-D star collapses into a black hole that another Big Bang happens, but it is possible for a 4-D star too. It also bring up the idea of multiple universes if you think about it. If there is a fourth dimension with one than one star than that means there could be multiple fourth dimensional black holes that created other universes when the collapse from a star.
ReplyDeleteThe article had a pretty interesting claim for sure. It's one of those that may take a little bit to get your head around, but it definetly gets you thinking about it
ReplyDeleteThis article was quite astonishing. I had to read it a couple of times to fully understand what it was trying to say. I love the idea that there might be a 4D star or even a fourth dimension we live in.
ReplyDeleteYes I agree with you on how astonishing this article is. It is interesting how there could be a fourth dimension.
DeleteThis just shows how many different types of theory's there are. The biggest and most questioned theory we have is the Big Bang Theory. It's questioned here because it seems that it missing a few facts and details to support it. Also this article talks about other dimensions and how they could have an impact on how the our universe started.
ReplyDeleteSo true. I agree gabino
DeleteReading this article really makes me think. In all my years of science class I have always been taught that our universe was created by The Big Bang theory. This article says that if the earth were created by the big bang there hasn’t been enough time between then and now for it to have reached that temperature equilibrium. Scientists Now believe that a collapsing 4D star could've created the universe. The likelihood of this seem a interesting to me but I'm not sure this is what happened. I don't think anyone can really know what happens so we make a bunch of theories.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you, you made a very good point.
Delete After reading this article, I am very confused, but at the same time very intrigued. it is very interesting reading about another theory on how the universe was formed. Although since the beginning we have been taught over the Big Bang theory, thinking that there may be another theory is mind blowing. To think that there are more than three dimensions is very confusing. How are we suppose to believe that there is another dimension is we are not able to see it? Also, the article states the theory that the universe was formed by a collapsing 4-D star. I believe that this theory is very interesting, but there is still not enough evidence to prove the theory correct. In order for me to completely agree with this theory it would have to be scientifically proven.
ReplyDeleteA fourth dimension is impossible to comprehend but to hypothesize that the universe is the result of collapsed hyperdimensional star is incredible. Astronomers needed a theory to explain the many fundamental flaws of physics during the Big Bang and this new theory satisfies that need. I don't know how they theorized this because there is not much evidence for this new theory but it is interesting and I would like to learn more about it. The Big Bang has always been the theory that I have relied on to be the most accurate, but this new theory is extremely interesting.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading this I must say I am still confused as to what exactly the fourth dimension is but it is intriguing, The 4D star does seem like a plausible thought and makes sense with them saying that the universe couldn't be as cool as it is now if there actually had been a big bang that was infinitely dense and hot. The only thing I cant seem to understand completely is if it were a 4D star that collapsed, why would that fourth dimension go away? Depending on its size, I feel like it would turn into a miniature 4D star. So many questions go unanswered and i guess that is the nature of science but at least people bring up these possibilities and make the minds of others more open to this infinite place at which we live in.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you, the fourth dimension is pretty confusing, but it's very interesting.
DeleteAfter reading this article I have a better understanding of the theory that the collapse of a 4D star created the universe. There are so many theories and reading this article made me interested in this theory. 4D space is something I had never heard off. It is also crazy that there is so much of our space still question what cause the collapse. There is much that we know about our universe but there is even more that we don't know and the creation of the Earth will always hold great controversy among people.
ReplyDeletethat is true, no one will ever agree on a theory due to the lack of supporting evidence
Deletethis is a rather interesting article, because it would be amazing if this theory was proven true. it would give everything a whole new perspective in showing us in an even greater way how we make up such a small part of the whole existence of universes in all dimensions. still don't see how a whole universe could be created from a star collapsing but hey, I've heard stranger theories
ReplyDeleteThis article is really interesting, but it's a little hard to grasp this concept. They bring up an alternate explanation for the formation of our universe that is way different than what we have learned by including a fourth dimension. This makes it hard to understand, but it would be interesting to study more about the 4th dimension and this idea of us living in a brane outside of a collapsed hyperdimensional star.
ReplyDeleteFrom this article I learned that after the beginning of time some unknown form of energy inflate at a rate faster than the speed of light. The likelihood of our universe being a part of that is plausible because in our universe is bounded by a black hole so eventually it will become a part of it
ReplyDeleteWow, it's crazy to think that the sold theory we have all relied on for HOW the universe was formed, might not even be what really happened. Of course it's possible that we are part of a brane at the event of the horizon from a collapsed four- dimensional star, but on a personal note it's quite hard to imagine. Part of it might be that believing in something we know little about is quite difficult, but it's also hard to believe we are part of a brane because we have believed in the Big Bang theory for 13 years, and it's what we are comfortable believing in. Of course anything is possible, and based on those scientist's claims they have some very good points. Who knows, that might be the answer for so many of our un-answered questions as it said, but personally. I'm still not sold
ReplyDeleteThough some could call this idea far fetched, many also called the Big Bang theory just that. I think it is just as possible, if not more so, for this theory of our universe being created by the collapse of a hyper dimensional star to be accurate. In fact, the theory does seem to make sense of some questions the Big Bang theory left out. It can create an explanation of the universes slow expansion and the temperature we are at now. And if this theory is true, a fourth dimension could help the world of science answer many mysteries that they couldn't have before.
ReplyDeleteI really liked reading this article. It really opened me up to the different theories of how the universe was created. It's crazy to think it was all created from the collapse of a 4D star. I had never even heard of that before.
ReplyDeleteIt's difficult for beings who experience only 3 dimensions to fully understand a reality that has more dimensions that meet the eye. Conceptually we can talk about it and it's meaning for us, but we can't truly grasp what a four dimensional universe would be like. Just as a two dimensional object could not grasp our three dimensional earth and would simply travel in circles if it tried to find the edge of the earth, we would experience the same thing if we tried to reach the edge of the universe. It's difficult to comprehend.
ReplyDeleteDespite this, I believe it is very real, and I also believe that since it is no incomprehensible that it could potentially answer some of the questions we cannot understand, such as how the material from the Big Bang came to be. While the idea of us being part of the event horizon of a four-dimensional star seems crazy, I believe something of this incomprehensible nature could be a plausible explanation for the things we don't understand.
I have always been taught that the big bang created our universe, however this article is in complete contrast with the Big Bang theory. The article stated that if the big bang happened there hasn't been enough time to reach the right temperature equilibrium.
ReplyDeleteScientists now believe that there is a "bulk universe" meaning our 3D universe is merely a membrane floating through a 4D bulk universe.
I find this theory hard to wrap my head around. A 4th dimension is hard to imagine or understand and there is little scientific evidence to suggest that where the 4th dimension came from. Was there a 5D world that collapsed to form a 4 dimensional universe? It is an interesting theory but it is hard to believe.
ReplyDeleteI really enjoy this article, I think it proves that the more we find out the less we know, and how science is always questioning and changing itself. Our universe is a huge question and I like how the Big Bang theory is possibly changing. It makes since that be upset eh temperature in our universe is uniform that the Big Bang couldn't have happened when it's said to have happened. But it's also hard to wrap my mind around any other idea of how our universe was created. The idea of the our 3D universe being a small membrane floating through a 4D universe is hard to grasp. But I would like to learn more about it and hope more research is done about finding out more about it.
ReplyDeleteThis was a really interesting article, especially because it brought a different perspective about the creation of the universe. It's kind of crazy to read about this concept because we've always been taught about how the universe was created as a result of the big bang. It's kind of confusing to understand but it really would be fascinating to research it more. It's super weird to think about how our universe could be created from a 4D star.
ReplyDelete The current theory of the creation of the universe is the Big Bang theory. This theory states that our universe was created as a singularity. A black hole in a place within space where gravity pulls so much that even light can not get out. These are formed by the collapse of very massive stars. from this article I learned that a fault in the big bang theory is the uniform temperature. If the Big Bang really did occur, the temperature should not be that way. Before this article I had no idea that that was even a possibility.mix believe that this theory is very interpreting and from what I've read could very likely be the truth.
ReplyDeleteThis article is very interesting but also a little confusing. There are way more ways to give the ideal explanation of the concept of the formation of the Universe, including the fourth dimension which includes hyper dimensional stars.
ReplyDeleteThis theory is fascinating. I cannot fully comprehend it but it is mind blowing that our entire universe could be just a portion of an enormous previously existing existence of sorts. I think that it would be near impossible to know if this new theory is true or begin to get good evidence of it for a long time to to technological restrictions. I think between that and the big bang it could be either one equally because there are issues with the big bang theory and overall so much we still do not know.
ReplyDeleteI Think that the possibility of a 4-D star collapsing and helping us to form the vast cosmos we know today is pretty high, because we know that black holes travel at the speed of light so taking that into account we can say that this may be very logical.
ReplyDeleteI would say that our universe is a brane of a 4-D star is highly likely.
It is an interesting theory to have enough evidence to support an idea that goes against the Big Bang theory, a theory that has been supported and accepted by most of society. I think it is possible, but it needs more evidence than just disputing the temperature aspect of the Big Bang theory. The 4-D part caught my attention, because I've never really thought about the idea of a fourth dimension. If they can further explain the "higher dimensional reality," then I believe that it would be more credible to challenge the existing proposition about the start of our universe.
ReplyDelete I still believe the creation of the universe Big Bang theory. According to research our universe was created as a singularity. A black hole in a place within space where gravity pulls so much. These are formed by the collapse of very massive stars. From the article That I read I learned that a fault in the big bang theory is the temperature. If the Big Bang really did occur, the temperature should not be that way. Before the article I still knew and believed that the universe was created by the Big Bang.The 4-D part caught my attention, because I've never really thought about the idea of a fourth dimension. But still I need more resources and evidence to believe that 4-d is true or not.
ReplyDeleteHonestly the Big Bang theory is already hard enough to comprehend for me, so many minor details. Now that there is a possibility of 4D stars and how the universe might be part of a brane. We know that black holes travel at the speed of light so there is a very high possibility of what's written in that article being true. Very mind blowing and hard to grasp but I'd love to look further into it and find more information to back up the theory.
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